The Overblowing of Weird Fandoms

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  1. Gestalt "Galsult the Gaslut" Replicant The Moon is red...red like wine.

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    So Cracked posted this piece today:

    http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/...rld&wa_user3=quickfix&wa_user4=feature_module

    Read it. It basically confirms what I've been thinking lately - that all of these "weird" fandoms' weirdness is way overblown.

    If you don't want to read it, here's a quick summary: basically, the author points out four pieces of weird MLP stuff (regular porn, food fetish porn, some Fallout crossover fanfiction and a quasi-parodical fiction that alleges the entire MLP universe is functioning by a Nazi government), and uses them as examples of why the MLP fanbase is particularly weird.

    You know, except for the fact that you can literally find this stuff for any fandom. Porn fiction and art? Everything. Food fetish and inflation? Ever been on Deviantart? Crossover fiction? Please. Over-examinations that rigorously look at the world of the given universe? Ash is in a coma.

    The author then goes on to state that it's exceptionally weird because MLP is aimed at kids. You know, except for the fact that Pokemon is aimed at kids too - and even the majority of Adventure Time. And MLP is obviously intended for a more inclusive age group than shows like Pokemon if the commonplace references to stuff like The Big Lebowski are any indication.

    Are bronies weird? Sure, but no more so than any other fanbase on the planet. Can't say I get the appeal of the show, but then again I don't get the appeal of a lot of shit, like Gears of War or American Horror Story or Supernatural or what have you.

    And this isn't just about bronies - this is about all the little fandoms and groups on this worldwide web of ours that get shat upon for... what, exactly? Doing stuff that makes other people uncomfortable because it's not what they're used to dealing with on a regular basis? What kind of asshattery is that?

    http://kotaku.com/5978236/my-weekend-at-a-furfag-convention

    Would I ever wear a fursuit? Not alive at least, and hopefully not dead either (better make sure I don't piss the people who dress your corpse off while still alive). But again, the author here makes the point that everyone automatically assumes the entire fanbase is comprised of a bunch of kinky sex addicts who long to escape being human and turn into magical creatures or whatever.

    Are there people like that in the furfag fandom? Oh, you betcha - if there weren't, Reyna could never be a thing and my life would be so much the poorer. But again, the freaks don't make up the majority. Very few furfags own fursuits, and very few of those use them for sex. Let's remember that freaky sex isn't linked to any fandom in particular. Hell, I read a massive grammatically correct Zelda fan fiction once where Link develops a fetish for being swallowed by snakes. Disturbing sex is both universal and minimal.

    And again, I don't get the appeal of liking anthropomorphic animals so much or whatever. But honestly, it has very little impact on my life, and if they want to dress up like mascots and... do whatever the hell you do while in a costume (I'm picturing some incredibly awkward socialization), then more power to them.

    In conclusion: as someone interested in both humor and being on the internet, I'm getting tired of almost meme-like jokes that overblow the madness of specific fandoms because they're untrue - and even worse, unfunny. There are certain aspects of these subcultures that are absolutely mad and worthy of endless laughter, but they make up a spectacularly small percentage of even their own very small subcultures - and that goes for every damn fanbase out there.
  2. I AM ERROR ONLY ERROR CAN DEFEAT GANNON

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    The reason these so-called weird fanbases get "shat upon" by the rest of the internet is that they manage to actually piss people off, thus generating antipathy towards them. At first no one outside of the fanbase cared for the MLP phenomenon, and fans of it didn't immediately get a bad reputation. They built it themselves, trying to spread their love too forcefully, and then reacting badly when told to stop.

    Yes, they're not weirder than any fanbase, but yes, the weird fraction of their fanbase is more annoying than most. It's not the fault of the fanbase as a whole, and might be even a case of vocal minority, but this has soiled their reputation and reduced people's capacity of tolerating their presence in general.
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  3. Basler I go where I please and I please where I go

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  4. hybridial Troll with a Sniper Rifle

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    What 404 ERROR said. Tact is everything when it comes to fetish, and most people are accepting of most things when someone's behaviour isn't out of line.
  5. Mr. W Lowly

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    The basic problem is the fact that they draw attention to themselves in a certain way. Nobody really gives a fuck if they like a little girl's cartoon or not, at least not on the internet. It's the fact that they incorporate it into their lifestyles, openly flaunt things that most would be smart enough to keep on the down low, create horrible fanfiction for their own "pleasure", and act like internet(and maybe real life, I've spotted one or two bronies in my school) Jehovah's Witnesses, going door to door hoping to spread their "message." And when somebody calls them out on any of this, they act like someone just called him a racial slur when all they did was ask them to stop spouting image macros in an unrelated thread.
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  6. Deku Scrub How about I scrub your shit?

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    This is the truth here.
    Nobody cared about Bronies in the first place, but it was the point that they started inserting ponies into everything, starting to make it a "lifestyle" that made it annoying. And when someone says "dude, you're fucking annoying" they either respond with more pony macros of "u mad bro" or "love and tolerate" bullshit. They act as if "acceptance" means "let them spread bundle of sticksry all over the place". That's why they have a bad name.
  7. Nathan Administrator

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    IT's just the way everything is. Do I care, as an example (not a weird fandom here but relevant) that 12 year olds play CoD and swear and curse their mothers to hearts content becaues they thionk they are trolling and acting cool? Hardly, I find that these type of players are such a small minority it's unfair to really describe the whole fandom for the game as mindless 12 year olds.

    However, no one would even think that if those 12 year olds weren't so loud, obnoxious, and annoying every who is playing the game. Then you have the internet where that behavior gets spread for comedic value or to complain, and either way it just gives it more attnetion so outsiders think it's normal for the fan base. Which it's not.

    Same is true of these weird fandoms. I don't honestly think all bronies, furfags, etc are terrible. In fact, I am sure most of the fans are perfectly reasonable people who just happen to like something. Being a furfag doesn't mean you want to always dress as animals, become animals, have sex with animals... etc.

    The problem is the small minority of that fandom that runs around openly PROFESSING they are part of that fandom end up becoming a big issue. They are usually flippant and rampant in their ways, and in doing so end up defacing and degrading the entire fandoms publicly.

    I have 3 real life freinds who are into bronies. They don't go around flaunting it and annoying people with it. Largely I think most of that fan base doesn't. THere are forums and appropriate communities to fangasm like that. But the few that venture out and try to spread it into places that aren't keen to it end up creating a very bad reputation for the whole community.
  8. iAsobu There is no answer and no form.

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    We have a relatable example right here:
    Look at Dragonos.
    Now look at NitroSquirrel.

    But this is something to look at:
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  9. Deku Scrub How about I scrub your shit?

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    I cannot like this post enough.
  10. felix bunnies.

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    I think it's very similar to how Hot Topic affects fandoms. I wouldn't say the fandoms are ruined, but Nightmare Before C h r i s t m a s and Invader Zim definitely have a stain on them.
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  11. Kyrith Barry Herbers

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    I'm confused, is furfag a social group, or just the "preference." If it's the latter then I can't say I agree with this. If it's the former, then I guess I see the point.
  12. iAsobu There is no answer and no form.

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    By "preference", do you mean attraction or fetish? It's a mix of both. For many, it is a fetish, but they cover it up with excuses like "NO, IT'S TOTALLY NOT A FETISH IT'S JUST HOBBY I ONLY DRAW ANTHROS AND ANTHROS ALONE JUST FOR FUN". If I remember correctly, an old member, NitroSquirrel, was actually honest and admitted his scalefaggotry was a fetish, and I applaud him for that.
    But he didn't flaunt it everywhere. Again, these things wouldn't be problems if people just stayed inconspicuous and didn't forcefully spread things.
  13. Kyrith Barry Herbers

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    Well, not forcefully spreading it is one thing, but we shouldn't be angry with them for just mentioning it (I'm not trying to imply that you were, but some people get that way).

    I have probably close to a dozen friends who are bronies, and it's only a problem when they get annoying and intrusive about it. Problem is... that's most of them. The few that just like the show and may have participated in some brony groups online I think no less of, but even 1 or 2 of them got annoyed with the brony community and just left it entirely. Most fandoms are way less annoying. I have a friend who are huge fans of Doctor Who, I'm a pretty big fan of Firefly (though, I guess that might not be a fandom worthy level of commitment), and I've got friends who are really into reading manga/watching anime (I know that shouldn't be a fandom since in t heory they're just an outline for a comic/TV art style, but let's face it, there's definitely an anime/manga fandom), and those aren't constantly being thrown in my face. As much as I hate to say it, I think a large portion of the brony fandoms fuel comes from how "against the norm" it is. Why else would they take every chance they had to wear brony shirts and even sometimes necklaces. There would be nothing wrong with it if I didn't strongly get the vibe that it was more for the sake of attention than for the sake of self expression. Even then though, it's still not the only defining trait of the person. I have other friends who are annoying sometimes, and I'm probably annoying to them sometimes, they're still my friends. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it's not about the interest, or even the fandom, it's about he person, the individual (for the most part at least. "organizations" like the KKK shouldn't get that sort of benefit of the doubt).
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  14. soap gaymer

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    You guys are very lucky. On the other message board I go to, the admins were big MLP fans who decided to cahnge the whole forum skin into a MLP mess. It was just an April Fool's joke and heck I had a good laugh with it myself, but some people didn't think it was funny and almost left because of it.
  15. Ruby Doesn't have a god complex.

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    Sounds like you go to a shit other message board, dude. If I was an admin I'd have reskinned it to have your avatar repeating in the background because :sary: that's how I roll.

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