Avatar was good, but it wasn't the best thing ever like everyone makes it out to be. I'd maybe give it a 7.5/10.
I can't help but NOT take anyone seriously who even attempts to defend Avatar for any reason other than that the visuals were pretty cool
The story was predictable? Who cares?! Everyone knows how King Kong ends, and yet no one would deny the masterpiece that it is.
The story was worse than just predictable, it was completely unoriginal. I did like the setting, though. Aliens with USB cables attached to their heads are fun
I'm referring to the original, the one that's not stretched beyond proportion with lame melodrama. Honestly, you guys REALLY do yourself an injustice whenever it comes to story.
Well if you're talking about the original I hardly see how your argument is relative. Of course everyone knows how it ends, because it's been around for 70+ years. And yes its considered a masterpiece, because at the time is was released the story was innovative and original. Everyone knew how Avatar was going to end, not because it's been around forever that everyone has seen, but because it's a rip off of a classic story theme that HAS been around forever. There is absolutely NOTHING original or innovative about Avatar, save for the graphics, which in and of itself is not enough to constitute it as a "Good movie". And I studied Cinema and Screen Writing (specifically) for 4 years at University. I actually have a degree stating that I'm qualified to be better at critiquing films than you. ESPECIALLY when it comes to story, which will forever be the MOST important aspect of a film first and foremost. For without a story, there is no movie to be made.
Yeah yeah and I got a Sociology degree, what of it? Avatar was all about spectacle, the story was unoriginal but serviceable.
The typical argument is people saying "I knew how it would end!" which makes it perfectly comparable to King Kong. And no, you're NOT more qualified at critiquing films. You're just qualified to critique them differently. Besides, I need to get a feel for how you view things. Too many people on this site have this huge fetish for "EVERYTHING NEEDS ORIGINALITY AND NO CLICHES TO HAVE A GOOD STORY" due to none of them having ever seen a Hitchcock masterpiece.
They don't have to be the most original thing ever, that's why tropes exist. But there's a thing called ripping-off, and that's what Avatar did. I liked the movie, but I can't really take its plot seriously.
Na na na boo boo, I'm better than you Nahhh haha I understand that everyone has different opinions. In fact one of the most important things I had to learn at school was how to put myself into the shoes of the common film audience (which lately these days have proven themselves to be quite retarded IMO (in America at least)) And no I'm not a huge ORIGINALITY PURIST like some people, because I understand that there is almost no such thing as true originality in terms of story these days. So many different things have been done that its impossible for someone to write a story and not borrow things from other proven standards. However, the fact that Avatar so blatantly and unashamedly STOLE the ENTIRE story and plot from other, frankly better films like Dances with Wolves and yes, even Pocahantes, and didn't even try to come up with something original beyond the "Look we're aliens in space in the future durrrrr" element is the reason why I have absolutely no respect for it.
I enjoyed Avatar, but before you all start flaming me, consider the circumstances: I went out with a bunch of friends and had drinks and dinner. We smuggled beer into the theater. I passed out and woke up 30 minutes into the movie. When I woke up, I told the unbelievably hot girl next to me that I had passed out for half an hour, so I asked her what happened. She said, "You were asleep!? I've been talking to you this whole time!" She then proceeded to hit on me for the rest of the movie. You could call that an artistic masterpiece.
Avatar really was a mash-up of a bunch of different stuff, and it did it fairly poorly. Like I said, it's a pleasantly watchable movie. But I will say, the Dances with Wolves and Pocahontas rip-offs are painful.
Avatar was okay, but I didn't really like it. Visuals were great, though. So, yeah, why didn't anyone mention Dragon Ball Z: Evolution? Acting sucked. Plot sucked. Special effects sucked.
Nobody is actively disagreeing that Avatar was a sci fi Pocahontas. Or a Sci fi Dances with Wolves. Or I know, how about a sci fi Fern Gully ! (<3 that movie) Really though, it's not the first time a basic plotline has been reused almost exactly, it sure won't be the last either. But, you are forgetting something. Writing and story are very important to movies, but they aren't like books. It's not the only thing they can concievably have going for them. Calling Avatar unoriginal is kind of unfair, because it was highly innovative in the area of computer animation, and also the workmanship in every facet of it's visual design is incredible. In all honesty they could have tried a more original but crappier plot but they played it safe, did one that's always worked and did it without any major flaws, and really that movie is all about it's technological achievements, and this does matter in what essentially is a very technologically driven media form.